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Arceal 29 mar, 2018 @ 13:46
Is the B-29 worth it?
I really wanted to get this bomber. Even though I know it will almost always face jets. However, what the actual ♥♥♥♥ is that stock repair cost? Are my eyes broken or is the stock repair cost really 48k lions?
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Hydra 29 mar, 2018 @ 13:51 
no
Just James 29 mar, 2018 @ 13:52 
no, not at ALL
Maki Nishikino 29 mar, 2018 @ 13:59 
It's alright to take out in RB and SB but not AB.
Arceal 29 mar, 2018 @ 14:02 
Ursprungligen skrivet av Maki Nishikino:
It's alright to take out in RB and SB but not AB.
But still. The odds of getting killed in one pass by the 9.0 jet in 7.3 (cough yak 23) is way too damn high. That is a 50k+ risk to take. Plus I have flown jets for germany. People are always saying "please let me kill the b29". It's like everyone farms it for points, and the person flying it has to pay an absurd amount for the repair. Did someone fat finger an extra zero on it's repair cost? Or is this just a really, really poor way of balance? Is it even possible to break even on a battle if you die with it?
Maki Nishikino 29 mar, 2018 @ 14:04 
Ursprungligen skrivet av Arceal:
Ursprungligen skrivet av Maki Nishikino:
It's alright to take out in RB and SB but not AB.
But still. The odds of getting killed in one pass by the 9.0 jet in 7.3 (cough yak 23) is way too damn high. That is a 50k+ risk to take. Plus I have flown jets for germany. People are always saying "please let me kill the b29". It's like everyone farms it for points, and the person flying it has to pay an absurd amount for the repair. Did someone fat finger an extra zero on it's repair cost? Or is this just a really, really poor way of balance? Is it even possible to break even on a battle if you die with it?

The repair price is high due to the damage it can inflict.
Senast ändrad av Maki Nishikino; 29 mar, 2018 @ 14:05
Arceal 29 mar, 2018 @ 14:07 
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Ursprungligen skrivet av Arceal:
But still. The odds of getting killed in one pass by the 9.0 jet in 7.3 (cough yak 23) is way too damn high. That is a 50k+ risk to take. Plus I have flown jets for germany. People are always saying "please let me kill the b29". It's like everyone farms it for points, and the person flying it has to pay an absurd amount for the repair. Did someone fat finger an extra zero on it's repair cost? Or is this just a really, really poor way of balance? Is it even possible to break even on a battle if you die with it?

The repair price is high due to the damage it can inflict.
That shouldn't be a balance factor unless the thing is a money farming machine.
Arceal 29 mar, 2018 @ 14:13 
If they are so hell bent on making the B-29 historically accurate, so they jack the price up like they have. Why not give it the historical payload it's famous for? Why not give it the Fat Man and Little Boy? lol
Lucas 29 mar, 2018 @ 14:18 
I used the b29 extensivly in simulator enduring conflict.
It gave me a few hundred thousand research and almost a million lions in one game.

It is prone to attack from a fast strafing jet, but most people in sim don't seem to understand how to use a fighter in sim.
Foxtrot39 29 mar, 2018 @ 14:27 
Because bomber like this killed SIM by ending matches in 20 min as no one is able to spot them in cloud with the reduced cockpit vision when a bomber can just enter gunner mod and enjoy 360° 3rd person view when you have 2 gunners + get mouse aim advantage over virtual joystick forced upon aircraft control

Bomber like this in squad of 3-4 could also end in one pass any RB match as their in the stratosphere before the early jets with lower than prop climb rate can catch up before they dropped all their bombs

As both those mods gave more RP/SL for every action and allowed them to ruin other players game unpunished gaijin nerfed it along with similar planes

Instead of putting it VS aircraft that would always wreck it before it does anything or make unhistorical modification to nerf it they made it cause you a net loss whenever you lost it to discourage its use

Ursprungligen skrivet av Arceal:
If they are so hell bent on making the B-29 historically accurate, so they jack the price up like they have. Why not give it the historical payload it's famous for? Why not give it the Fat Man and Little Boy? lol

Thats the B29 "Silver" modification including armored bomb bay to stop radiation from poisening the crew along with a bomb bay slight rework to fit nukes in it

On top of that nuke is more likely to get you banned as the blast radius would also kill more than enough teammates to trigger the autoban bot for teamkills
Senast ändrad av Foxtrot39; 29 mar, 2018 @ 14:34
Doctor Eggman 29 mar, 2018 @ 14:29 
If its okay for ground based AA to have radar aimed guns, the B29 should have computer aimed gunners.

THEN it will be worth the repair cost.
Arceal 29 mar, 2018 @ 14:38 
Ursprungligen skrivet av Maki Nishikino:
Ursprungligen skrivet av Arceal:
If they are so hell bent on making the B-29 historically accurate, so they jack the price up like they have. Why not give it the historical payload it's famous for? Why not give it the Fat Man and Little Boy? lol

Not many B-29s were converted to carry those bombs and use common sense. :/
Adding a model for the 500lb bombs is fine, and adding the models for the 2000lb bombs is fine, but not the fat man and little boy? That does not make any sense. War Thunder can model it in. They would only need to make it so the plane climbs slower, and flys slower. They gave their trashy PE-8 an insanely heavy bomb. Probably just to say it's the biggest bomb in the game. Why not give the Superfortress the actual biggest bomb in history? For a company that puts a heavy emphasis on realism. When it comes to the US having the better stuff, they always leave it out. For example: The B-29 and the Abrams. The B-29 can't have it's nukes and the Abrams can't have it's depleted uranium APFSDS. lol
Senast ändrad av Arceal; 29 mar, 2018 @ 14:39
Doctor Eggman 29 mar, 2018 @ 14:40 
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Not many B-29s were converted to carry those bombs and use common sense. :/
Adding a model for the 500lb bombs is fine, and adding the models for the 2000lb bombs is fine, but not the fat man and little boy? That does not make any sense. War Thunder can model it in. They would only need to make it so the plane climbs slower, and flys slower. They gave their trashy PE-8 an insanely heavy bomb. Probably just to say it's the biggest bomb in the game. Why not give the Superfortress the actual biggest bomb in history. For a company that puts a heavy emphasis on realism. When it comes to the US having the better stuff, they always leave it out. For example: The B-29 and the Abrams. The B-29 can't have it's nukes and the Abrams can't have it's depleted uranium APFSDS. lol

The B29 isn't even modelled realistically. You can look at video online showing how fast the gun motors move, they're terrifically fast.

Not to mention that the computer that powered them was literally fly-by-wire. You only had to point the target and the computer would compensate the rest, even going by the enemy plane speed.

If the B29 had computer-aimed guns it'd be a bloody monster.
Arceal 29 mar, 2018 @ 14:43 
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Ursprungligen skrivet av Arceal:
Adding a model for the 500lb bombs is fine, and adding the models for the 2000lb bombs is fine, but not the fat man and little boy? That does not make any sense. War Thunder can model it in. They would only need to make it so the plane climbs slower, and flys slower. They gave their trashy PE-8 an insanely heavy bomb. Probably just to say it's the biggest bomb in the game. Why not give the Superfortress the actual biggest bomb in history. For a company that puts a heavy emphasis on realism. When it comes to the US having the better stuff, they always leave it out. For example: The B-29 and the Abrams. The B-29 can't have it's nukes and the Abrams can't have it's depleted uranium APFSDS. lol

The B29 isn't even modelled realistically. You can look at video online showing how fast the gun motors move, they're terrifically fast.

Not to mention that the computer that powered them was literally fly-by-wire. You only had to point the target and the computer would compensate the rest, even going by the enemy plane speed.

If the B29 had computer-aimed guns it'd be a bloody monster.
That goes for a lot of American vehicles. Like the M26 Pershing. The M26 had an insanely fast motorized turret. But in game it turns at the speed of the hand crank. It's like Gaijin is having an inferiority complex. Which is probably why all their tanks in game are so much better than they are in real life, and they are always facing the American tanks just to show how much better there stuff is.
Maki Nishikino 29 mar, 2018 @ 14:45 
Ursprungligen skrivet av Arceal:
Ursprungligen skrivet av Maki Nishikino:

Not many B-29s were converted to carry those bombs and use common sense. :/
Adding a model for the 500lb bombs is fine, and adding the models for the 2000lb bombs is fine, but not the fat man and little boy? That does not make any sense. War Thunder can model it in. They would only need to make it so the plane climbs slower, and flys slower. They gave their trashy PE-8 an insanely heavy bomb. Probably just to say it's the biggest bomb in the game. Why not give the Superfortress the actual biggest bomb in history? For a company that puts a heavy emphasis on realism. When it comes to the US having the better stuff, they always leave it out. For example: The B-29 and the Abrams. The B-29 can't have it's nukes and the Abrams can't have it's depleted uranium APFSDS. lol

Sorry, deleted my post as Foxtrot39 said it better. Yeah, we're not getting nukes, not up for debate. There are many planes that don't have such simple loadouts such as rockets for the B-25 and you want nukes for the B-29?
Senast ändrad av Maki Nishikino; 29 mar, 2018 @ 14:48
GoreTiger 29 mar, 2018 @ 14:47 
The issue with The B29 in-game, Like almost all bombers in-game, Is that you're usually alone. And a huge target. Trying to get randoms into formation is a nightmare and the fighter jocks don't have any serious motivation to protect you.


Being a bomber Pilot in this game kind of makes me miss my Bomber Days on Aceshigh. Over there all bomber pilots spawn with 3 bombers in formation. 1 is the players bomber the other 2 are computer controlled to follow you in formation and function like real bombers. Gave a more realistic approach to bombing. But then again that game is leagues above this one in that field.
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